The thoughts of a newly married, recently graduated, christ-seeking, pastor-to-be

What?

What is it about Christianity that makes you like it? Turn towards it? That gives you hope?

Mine?

There is nothing to profit in material gain on earth or after. It is the most humble faith. There are no virgins waiting for me, no planetoid, no sense of elitism, there is just worshiping God.

Christianity gives me a hope for a world beyond my own selfishness.

 

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Zach, I ended up on your blog by exploring the links from Randy Parker's blog. Randy is on staff with us at New Covenant Comm Ch in Fresno. I was attracted to your list of theological posts. Okay, full disclosure...my specialty is medieval theology. Yeah, I'm a Baptist and that is strange thing for a Baptist pastor to specialize in.

Here is my point. Typically, evangelicals tend to think there is no profit to be gained from the use of material things. This, I believe, is a critical mistake. Material things are: A) good; and B) a primary means by which we do God's will in the world. This is because man is not just an individual social unit. Man is part of the human family and the community dimension of human existence is critically important and often outweighs the needs of the individual. For instance, The goal of a father must include that his

children reach their spiritual and material potential. When a father

pursues his own ends to the exclusion of meeting these needs, we must

rightly say that he fails to reach his own potential. Unfortunately, the world is full of fathers that are pursuing their own individual potential in the exclusion of their children.

Bodily goods (material things) are gifts from God to be used for his glory and for our character development. Without the proper use of our goods we cannot become virtuous. Here is what Aquinas noted while quoting Augustine on this subject:

As Augustine says (De Lib. Arb. ii, 19), "it belongs to virtue to use well the things that we can use ill." Now we may use both well and ill, not only the things that are within us, such as the powers and the passions of the soul, but also those that are without, such as the things of this world that are granted us for our livelihood.

In short, material things must be used "well" in order for us to become a virtuous Christian. In doing so we become prepared for eternity. In this way, there is great profit in the use of material things.

Blessings,

Jän van Oosten

Fresno, CA
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Jän. Thank you for your wonderful discourse, I am a huge fan of medieval theology so I very much enjoyed what you had to say.

However, my primary thought in the writing of this post was what turned me on to christianity. Which was simply that there is no tangible gains for us as we walk in faith.

Trust me, I am a huge proponent of using whatever we can for the betterment of man, God, the church, etc...
Zach is my theological hero. This is a very cool discourse. One that both makes my brain hurt and dance.
I'm with Rich, this is a very cool discussion. Especially since my mom just shared a story about some missionaries that spoke at their church when I was like 2. They said that our material goods are evil we need to sell them all, and give to the poor and dedicate ourselves to God's work. They also said my Dad should go to hell because he was a rocket scientist, and designed missles. Anyway, their point was that to gain anything in faith we must give up our worldly possesions. Kind of the opposite of what you both are saying. I like to think that crazy missionary was a heratic . . . but who am I to judge. Good thoughts . . . I talk to much, sorry.

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